SPEAKER_01 0:06

One more. A couch might be one. One more, one more. And one more, last one. All right. We are grounded. We are in our bodies. And welcome to the third episode of the podcast What is Life?

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Baby, don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more.

SPEAKER_03 0:42

But maybe it will not be third episode. It will be third episodes. Maybe not.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Well, it's the second one I'm recording because I still hope one day you will leave me space for the first intro episode, which you probably already listened to if you are listening to this one. So welcome to the third episode where we're.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

Maybe we will record two episodes, and then these two will be third and fourth.

SPEAKER_00 1:03

Okay, well, welcome to another episode of What Is Life with Martina and Tomas, who just cannot stay away from me.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

It was actually yesterday when we recorded the our story. We started how we met in high school, then how we didn't see each other and know anything about each other for 12 years, and then how we met again in 2020. We discussed our first date.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

And that's where we ended. Right. We actually said about nine days, how we spoke a lot. And you told me something today.

SPEAKER_03 2:08

What is that? I told you a lot today.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

Yeah, but one of the things was that you were falling asleep and you realized that you didn't say your perspective about high school, that only I was the one who spoke about how I felt about you when I saw you first in high school corridors.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

And you didn't get your chance. So would you like to kind of like time travel and then we you know continue where we left off?

SPEAKER_03 2:33

I can do that. So would you like to know?

SPEAKER_00 2:36

So, how was it for you in high school when you first saw me and then Okay?

SPEAKER_03 2:43

Well, I was attracted to you.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

Uh just like to recap, this was 2009, guys. Actually, probably also also eight. Eight. No, it was That's where I star when I started high school. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:58

Yeah, I I just seen you in the crowd somehow of people in the high school. I stood out because I'm 185 centimeters taller than anyone else. Yes, it's true. It's like I I always like that that you are tall. And yeah, I remember that I just like I felt attracted to you and then like I was never like good in going to a girl and just like be like, hey, and what's up or something. I would say that I never like I had a courage to do these things or I was shy to do these things, I would say. Yeah. You know, it's like for me, like it was always easy to talk to anybody like inside of some kind of group of friends or something, even though if like they were like I never met them before, but like that first contact with with the with people was never easy for me. Like I'm not like a person like you exactly like you can just go and just talk to anybody like they're your friends, but for me it takes like a little bit of time, you know, not a lot, but like I need like two, three minutes. Yeah, to feel comfortable. So I never like did something like that in my life. And yeah, yeah, and then I remember that my friend, like he like Yes, he somehow he started texting with you. I don't know why or how or what, but but yeah, I don't know how. But I know that how I remember it that like like somehow one day on Friday evening when we were supposed to go to his place and have some drinks or something, we were supposed to meet you somewhere. Like he somehow invited you or something, and I was so grateful for that because I knew that I can somehow establish a contact with you and I can like somehow start texting with you or just like something, you know. Yeah, so it was really it was really amazing of him. I don't know if he like did it for me consciously or or he just didn't. He would be a really good friend because he also is like you that he can talk to anybody. Yes, yes. So it's really easy for him to do that. But but I remember that I told him that I liked you. I yeah, he did something like this. Yeah, I remember. So again, I don't know if it was just like subconsciously or consciously, or like we never like we never talked about it. That I never would. Maybe on our wedding you will also. I never told him like, bro, like did you like can you text or like no? It like Yeah, no, it's but yeah, but I remember that that's when we first time somehow were talking.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

It was in that little forest?

SPEAKER_03 5:27

No, no, that's where we when we where we got after we had some drinks or whatever we were doing, and after we already knew each other, and then we went there and that's where we kissed.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

I don't remember shit. Yeah, I don't remember anything from that time.

SPEAKER_03 5:42

And um honestly, like I don't really remember like how long it took that we were like to together. We weren't even together, we were just dating, or I I don't know, like, but it was really short. Yeah, because every time you had to leave or I had to leave. Yeah, but I remember that at that point of my life I was not really able to commit to a long-term relationship.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

But you had actually at that point you were either just broken up or something, and yeah, your ex-girlfriend she really shouted at me once in a bar, and there was some like a lot of drama around it. Like we were really interesting kids, bunch of kids that were creating a lot of people. There was something going on.

SPEAKER_03 6:23

I don't know necessarily remember exactly like those parts because it was not really important. I don't know, like I I remember those parts.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

You remember the kisses, I remember the party.

SPEAKER_03 6:33

But I but I remember that I was really not able to like I it was like I was like what like 18 or something or and like it was really not the time for me to just uh have a relationship that is overseas for 10 months or something with the person that I met like a two weeks ago or a week or not commitment for Slovak children, yeah, for any children. But I mean for some people it's it would be really easy, and but like I know that for me like I I just I we kind of tried, remember? We were trying to I mean we were we were staying in touch in the beginning, but I just first three months or four. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 7:11

At that point it was not for me like something that I would genuinely uh like and you know I remember you were so different when sending me messages on Facebook and uh than in in person. That's what I remember because I think in 2021 I actually we scrolled back in my chat history with you on Facebook Messenger and I wanted to see all those conversations. I remember how I felt like I felt like it's never enough what you tell me, what you you you sent me really long messages like updates about your school and how you don't like it and what you did and who you share a room with, and you know, because you changed after first year your university, so you were sharing how you really don't enjoy it and it's really hard, and there's so much studies, and you're just like probably this was wrong decision, so you told me all this, but I just didn't feel like it was personal enough because like okay, nice, I don't care about the school, how are you, you know? And that's what made me feel like there was not the connection I needed somehow, the emotional one from the messages, which I really respect long distance relationship people, because like yeah, it's just I think we were meant to just connect in person, and that's why we had to wait. Hmm, that's my what I remember.

SPEAKER_03 8:29

Yeah, um can be like I know for sure that at that time I was not really ever with anybody speaking about how I actually feel to until 2020. Until like 2020, until you met me properly. I would even say.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:46

Uh so yeah, that's possible if that's what you were looking for, like that definitely you couldn't find that with me.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

No, that's what I remembered also in general, you know. It was one thing I learned I felt with you even when we were those two weeks, like one week in twenty two thousand nine and one week two thousand ten. I I tried to go deeper, but I felt like it's not that possible with you. So I was like, okay, trust, be cool, have fun, like you know, adjust shape shift again, my pattern. And but I always felt felt like I can't go that deep with you. And I remember when I met you again in 2020, I still felt it a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 9:22

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

But I then I tried to share with you like through fighting, and I didn't know how to communicate my needs well at that point yet, in the beginning of our proper this six years relationship, but you know, I tried to like dig it out of you with with like force, and it was just pushing you away. So that was definitely a huge thing we had to overcome together.

SPEAKER_03 9:46

Yes. But I want to say that because you are uh host of this podcast, you cannot interrupt me all the time, you know. I also want to say something.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

I'm trying so hard, dude.

SPEAKER_03 9:56

Okay, so really trying to bite your finger or something. Okay. So, anyways, what I was saying is that are we still with the high school? I don't like I never finished, like you interrupted me like seven times. And it's okay, but I I I don't think I finished, and I don't even know what I was talking about, but it's okay. I know I was saying that I um I couldn't commit, and and yeah, I wanted to say say that you know what I wanted to say? I actually wanted to say that like for me, even though whatever happened between us was really short, but for me it was like super intense, and I really felt so much attraction and love towards you. Yes, it's something that stood out for me, and and like you were sharing on the other the other day yesterday, like you were sharing how like you had to create that I was a dick or something, yeah. But for me, like I I think I created like the opposite. Like for me it was absolutely ideal. It for me it was just perfect what what was happening, and even though you know it wasn't the right time, but like in my mind it just got imprinted there as something that was perfect because we were just having so much fun, we were having so many amazing conversations, even though they were not about feelings and all of that, which I really didn't care about at that point. But like we were like we're laughing so much, and we were like I felt like we were so much in love, and and um yeah, and yeah, and it was just incredible, and we had like no fights at that point, if I remember correctly.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

Like, how could we have fights in four days? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 11:35

So that's why I'm saying it was perfect, it was like a fairy tale. So that's why over those years, somehow I think that was also one of the one of the reasons why like you always got like somehow stuck in my mind, even like I said, like I was thinking about you maybe twice a year, but still, like it was something really just perfect, you know. So it makes sense that I just wanted to kiss you the moment I seen you after 16 years or whatever it was.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

Because that was your that was your memory. Yeah, that was my memory, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:12

Like that's how like for me it didn't end. For me, it felt like like I felt the same. I felt like how many years it was? 12. Okay, 12. So it I felt the same. I felt 12 years ago. Like I still felt love towards you, and that's why I felt like that's why I was excited to see you and all of that, you know? Yeah, so so yeah, so I wanted I wanted to share that. Like that was my perspective about that time, and and yeah, and then we talked about the first date, and that was I don't know if I said something about that, but for me it was just You said yeah. Yeah, I said I wanna say am I still jumping in your own?

SPEAKER_01 12:47

No, no, no, it's fine. I have two things.

SPEAKER_03 12:49

I mean you can jump once or twice, but that's it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Okay, so can you put a chalkboard and just like you know, make lines? So I wanted to say first one, I didn't create it the belief that you are a dick during what how we were together, but I created it after uh as we were started to disconnect. Yeah. So that's the story I needed to imprint, you know, in order to just survive, I guess, without you. And the second thing I wanted to make clear, and something I feel deeply, is that we often and we will talk about it, and we even our businesses about it, it's about the magnetic connection that is underneath all of our stories and our ego and our mind stories and all the all the things that we you know create in our mind. So even underneath all of that, we were supposed to meet. I believe to this day we were meant to meet. Yeah, it was just given, it was just chosen for us, and something invisible, some force, some just incredible magnetic force was connecting us, and it did connect us, and it was so special. That's why you had the clean, I feel like you had the clean memory, uncolored by the mind stories, and that's basically I feel like you live that way in general. And for me, because I'm so emotional, so perceptive, so aware, and so like even overthinking, you know, my brain had to do that thing, and so I you had clean memory, and I had colored memory, and that's what we needed, both of us, which is absolutely okay. And so I wanted to say that we were meant to meet then, and we needed to have this story. This story supported our business when we created it to create future uh uh freedom in our life, and so that's what I wanted to say. These two things. Yeah, it was perfect. We can pause here, we're back. Okay, what did you just say?

SPEAKER_03 14:50

I just called to say I have to start somehow. So you told us that basically when we went to the Croatia, like you realized that that's how you wanna live, even though you experienced that before in Thailand. Yeah, but there you realize that maybe you want to live like that with me. That's that's what you were trying to say. Yeah, yeah, I really loved it.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

I loved that free way of living.

SPEAKER_03 15:13

Yes. So for me, I just want to say that for me, I I I always knew that that's how I wanna live. I guess I didn't realize that the bike is part of it because I didn't like that's not like no, it's not because for me, like I don't think about the transportation as a main thing, how I want to live, right? Like, I more think about like being in the nature and being outside.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

Okay, but like the freedom on a bike now after five years of living on a bike.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

I mean, honestly, for me, if you have a bike or car, like you have freedom because you can go somewhere, like, and for me it's regardless of the wind in the hair. Yeah, it's nice, it's nice. So, but I what I what I was trying to say, what I wanted to say, like my experience was that for many years already, maybe 10 years already at the time, even more, like I knew that that's how I want to live. But it was first time when I I can't say that I realized that, but it first time felt like that you are somebody who I can actually live like that with, you know. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 16:18

I know.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

So so yeah, but I don't know. For me, like I was really there, you know, like I was really there, like like I wasn't creating our dream house and how many kids we have and how many dogs, and meaning, you know, like whether we are on but the dogs part, yes.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

I was already counting the dogs, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:38

So so so I was there, like I really was not thinking about what's gonna be, but that little bit happened in the car. What you wanted to say?

SPEAKER_01 16:46

So this guy made us sandwiches. He bought Red Bull, he drive the whole Red Bull and ten hours drive, ten hours business, which and some kind of not brainwashing, but like brain filling up with opportunity and like opportunity possibility of like this actually being possible for us if we create something that could take me out of Dubai and take you out of ground, that it could actually be how we can live. And one thing about my beautiful boyfriend Tomashko is that he is really good at building building Lego cars, building garden from scratch, building businesses, building trust, three houses, tree houses, yeah. I like to build shit, food, that's also part of it. You you start from idea and you bring it to life. He's really, really powerful in this. And so he needed to bring me on board because it is my kind of my passion.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

Like I love to like I always love to talk about business and I I like it. And I was trying to do something like that for like years basically, yeah. And I was mostly I think about my years in Prague, especially like the not the first two or first one, first year, but then like I I think about it when I think about it back. That was the time when I was learning everything about business, especially about online business. So, yeah, so when somehow we got to the topic, I don't know how we get there, but I I don't think it was 10 hours of just that, but whatever, like that's my experience. Um for me it was like two or three, but okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

So if you have Red Bull, it shortens the time, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

It's like a line of code. Yeah, so so yeah, so obviously, like I like I started talking about that because that was what eventually I was doing even before I met you, but then when you somehow got interested in also building something, then but I I tried as well.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

I had online stores, yeah, yeah. Maybe that showed you that I have the same entrepreneurial mindset.

SPEAKER_03 19:20

I honestly I don't remember the conversations. I know that it took place, but I don't remember.

SPEAKER_01 19:27

Yeah, I remember that when we came back home, we set up a business meeting in Latazione, the bankrupted or like the coffee shop that doesn't exist anymore in Belvedere in Vanska Bistrița. Remember at the table we met after like two days after we came back from Croatia after having beer with his mom when she got um when she understood I am his future uh future wife.

SPEAKER_03 19:58

Oh baby, you just made it up.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Whatever, let me make it up. It's my podcast. I will say whatever I want. I like to also over exaggerate. Like you guys will find out, but anyways, it's an entertainment industry, like whatever. I can say whatever I want, like that's a freedom of speech. So we got there, and you presented me three options.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

Here we go. He has completely different experience. So basically, this is just like we live two different relationships.

SPEAKER_03 20:28

But you know what? You know what? Like it's completely okay for me that you have like completely different uh world or view, or or you remember it differently. Like that's that's completely okay. But once you start speaking about it as it's our view of the thing, and it's how we did it, and how we see that, and how it was. Okay, it's for some reason that's not just sharing this. Maybe, maybe, maybe. I'm just saying that for some reason it's just really uneasy for me to just go with it and allow you to just say all of those things and just be part of it as uh as as as in your world. So that's why I have this need to just say how it works for me. Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

It let's okay, let's make something straight. Let's straighten it up. You're not correcting me, you're sharing your experience.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

Yes, and you are sharing yours, and I am sharing mine, and I will try my best to No, just share it as as you want, it's fine.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

And then he will say his part. And this is the beauty of exchanging our perspectives because it invites us into not only acceptance that some things may not be experienced by the other person as we did experience them, but also it kind of helps us to connect because it creates a beautiful, beautiful field for exchanging ideas and opinions and getting to know each other on another level.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

And you know what's funny that when we were there in that situation. Like we understood each other, and we I feel like we seen one thing, but then like one month later, one year later, six years later, when we look at that situation, we remember it completely differently. That's funny.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

It is hilarious. So okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

So say Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

What I experienced at the table was that you gave me three options, and we decided on three different ways. How can we create a business that will support this dream that we had after experiencing our life in Croatia for such a short time? But it was really memorable. It was like in my body, like this is how I want to feel. You know, this is how I want to feel. I want to have a bike, I just want to go. I just oh ocean. Oh, okay. So you presented or we came up with three ways what we can do. First one was to do social media campaigns. Social media agency. No, it's important. So maybe it's all about details. So social media agency to do social media for people, because that's what I did in Dubai for brands as part of my um event management like skill set. I actually came up with it, and then I was doing it for Mercedes and DHL and other brands I worked with. And then so yeah, that was social media agency, and the second was affiliate marketing. I cannot be looking at you because I can just see your judgment on your forehead. So I have to look at our my fairy light. I bring them everywhere in the world, and that's how I make a home from every single hotel room that I go to, including the one we're living in for a month now in Vietnam, How Yan. So second was affiliate marketing. That means you take any successful product and then you make ads or videos and you earn a percentage of the sales. Okay. And the third one was an online store with a product. And I really liked the third option because I felt like not only we have ownership of it, but we can exercise or practice all kinds of things that I like. We can make videos, pictures, take pictures, I can write stuff, I can do social media, and I feel like I can really use my my dog is really snoring. Excuse me.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

And also you forgot the part where you will have a YouTube channel, which was also an option. So there was no social media agency.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

YouTube channel? Yes. Now no, that was not an option at the table. It was an option in my head. So, and that was not together, you would never be there. Or yes, that's how we what we thought. Now you are in my podcast, anyways. So uh yeah, it was the online store, and I was like, I love this. Let's do it. How did you experience it?

SPEAKER_03 24:54

I don't know. I was just there. I was just there.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

And then I came home with this paper because I was making notes, and I presented this to my parents, and my dad also said that he likes the third option the most. I remember that. It was really nice. I know how where I was sitting, I remember at the moment because I even took a picture for you that I just told my parents. It's somewhere in our telegram channel or something, chat. Yeah, and that's when I started to come over to Kusos' apartment who you were living with at that point.

SPEAKER_03 25:27

You were coming over even before, right?

SPEAKER_01 25:29

Yes, but this was like with a different basically, you guys have to understand one thing we were together for literally like three weeks, and we already started to cooperate also on a like professional or business level.

SPEAKER_03 25:49

And we already took a vacation for 10 days.

SPEAKER_01 25:53

Yeah, and also fun fact, ever since we're together 24-7, there was l very little, maybe like um in six years, we spent maybe one month total apart, maybe like 10 days when I went for Slovakia, then another 10 days, yeah, and then three days before Vietnam. So like we are always together. And I feel like, yes, it sounds like yes, six years we've been together, but it feels like sixty. So many lives to live. 60 million lifetimes. And like the amount of hours spent talking, and we still have so much to say that we started to record it, and we still have fun talking together and looking at each other with a smile on our face and just loving each other, and just like listening to our dogs blurring. Hilarious. It's just another level. I don't know. I don't know. First of all, I don't know any other couple who would be together this much. And because like life normally doesn't allow us, right? We have jobs, we have responsibilities, we have things. Well, we had nothing. Like Corona created like a free empty space for us to fill it with our own creativity and our own desires. And that's what we did. And since then, within three weeks, we not only became partners, like lovers, but also business partners.

SPEAKER_03 27:22

And for me, it felt more like a hobby partners than business partners.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

I took it.

SPEAKER_03 27:29

But yeah, but let's let's let's let's circle back to the original topic. So we started to build business together, right? Yes, and um, and as we started building it, the first let's just allow her to snore, it's okay. So yeah, and so we started to build the like started to build business together, and um and after what, like how long it takes, like two weeks?

SPEAKER_01 27:52

I mean uh one week after two weeks we moved in together as well, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 27:56

So so because we were starting doing business together, so we not only that we wanted to be together, but we also needed some kind of office or like space where we could actually like build the business, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:09

And also we were so loud that the neighbors, yeah, neighbors in the apartment where Tomas was living with his friend were complaining so much.

SPEAKER_03 28:18

Yeah, yeah, we are too loud, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:21

That we just needed to move, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:23

But we wanted to live together, and like we wanted to be together 24-7, basically. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

So after one month, we already had vacation behind us, business idea in the head direction, or at least business direction, and apartment together.

SPEAKER_03 28:39

Yeah, so you know, you just know and and that was like I don't know, but I remember that I wasn't sure about the apartmenting. Like you remember, like yeah, you don't remember?

SPEAKER_01 28:52

Oh well, the big decisions you would always just like kind of stall. Yeah, I would be the one. Let's go, let's do it.

SPEAKER_03 29:00

Yes, for me, like I remember that it like took some time for me to like yeah, we are different in this, yeah. But we but I think like I remember you were like really sure and like kind of like pushed me a little and yeah, sometimes you need that push, and also there was one apartment available in the entire city of opportunities. Like, okay, everything else was just old and ugly.

SPEAKER_01 29:25

Yes, exactly. And it was by the tennis course where I grew up, it was exactly one kilometer from my parents, one kilometer from your mom. Yeah, and it was just perfect.

SPEAKER_03 29:34

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

And it was all we needed, you know, it was like a one-bedroom, two-bedroom thing, and yeah, really, really, we really attracted great stuff.

SPEAKER_03 29:43

And also we didn't plan to be there for a long time, anyways. But we had it for six months or something, right? Yeah, and we could we had option to cancel like one month before thing got because we didn't know what's gonna happen, like we still, you know, like basically it was corona. You didn't know if you're gonna go back to Dubai. I like basically I could be anywhere, so I didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

Basically, this stayed with us. We still live that way. We still don't know where we're gonna be in two months or three months, in six months.

SPEAKER_03 30:08

We're kind of not now we don't, but before we did new, like when we lived in Bali, we knew exactly.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

Ah well, look, you also didn't want to come in that much to any villa, if you remember, for a year, because we didn't know how long we would stay there. This is always like something.

SPEAKER_03 30:23

We also never had any place where we would like to be for that long, if you think about it, because like the only place where I would stay long was the place where the place is sorry, where we didn't live alone, and therefore it was also it was also because of other people. Yeah, like that one place where we lived in Matuja with Matuja and Alex was the best place ever, and we couldn't stay there longer because they wanted to live back home. Yeah, so you see, yeah, so we didn't actually find the really nice place the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

Yeah, but the thing is that I feel like this living, many people they ask us, so what's next? What's the plan? What's your plan? We don't have plans, and we tried living with the plans and goals in mind, and they never actually happened. No, it never worked. Really, life put us together and completely shattered all the things I okay, life put me together with you, and it shattered everything I ever knew about life, and everything I ever heard, how life should yeah, should be lived. Everything proved that that's not how it is, and so I needed to learn how to live without the plan. I needed to accept that not knowing is okay, and that that's where all the magic happens. And all of that all really taught me one thing that all I have is now, this present moment, and nothing is guaranteed. And who am I to micromanage my future when God or life what is life knows what's there for me, so all I can do is be open to have it unfold in front of me. And that's what basically we did from the beginning. We didn't have big plans, we didn't have like, okay, within two years we will get married, within three years we will have a first kid, we will get a mortgage and all no, no, none of that really actually even crossed our minds. And I remember we had one discussion in front of the house where you lived with Kuso on the bench, and I told you, like, I'm sorry, but I like I don't feel like I'm gonna get married or have kids. I'm 28 and I don't feel like that. So if that's what you want, I'm sorry, but I cannot continue. Remember? No, I do. It was huge for me because I needed to admit that I can lose you because of that. I still didn't know if it's okay. That was one of the reasons why you ended your previous relationships because that's also what you didn't want. We still didn't think about uh talk about it. I know what happened. We smoked weed, and you showed me all your friends from your group. Oh, this guy's getting married. Oh my god, this guy is also getting married, they are pregnant. And I was high, and my mind, oh my god, I remember this so much. My mind is overthinking even more. I hate the weed for that, and that's why I don't even smoke anymore. Because it would imagine overthinking human, and then you put weed like a gas gas to the fire, and then it would become paranoid, even more overthinking. Oh my god, and for you, it just shuts you down and you go to sleep. So you can imagine how okay, but like I got scared because I thought you're showing me look, look how my friends are doing well, and maybe that's what we can have. So I kind of like fill in the blanks, which was just my own imagination at that point, and I'm like, oh my god, I have to tell him that's not what I want. Hey, I have to tell him the truth. And I set you down. It's so funny you don't remember. This was like a pivotal moment, and for me, for me, for me, and I set you down. I'm like, dude, like I'm sorry, but I have to be honest with you from the beginning because it's like three weeks in, and I need to tell you immediately how people speak about like they want family and all of that. This obviously changed over the years for me, but at that point I was like, no, hard stop, like, no, that's not what I want in life. And you said, Oh, minider, and I'm like, Oh, exhale, okay, nice, we can continue. Yeah, and then uh we moved in together and we started to look for a product to sell.

SPEAKER_03 34:40

Yes, we were creating the business, and one of the things we needed to do is to find a product, yes.

SPEAKER_01 34:47

And that's where we will finish today's podcast.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

So we only moved by two weeks.

SPEAKER_03 34:54

But I also want to say something.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

Oh, sorry guys! I'm so sorry because you were like so chill and you didn't like raise your hand.

SPEAKER_03 35:02

Because like so many things that you say are things that happened in your mind only, so it's hard to I don't like this.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

What they didn't happen in my mind, they happened. My mind just talks about it from my perspective, but they happened. I didn't make up these situations on the bench just because you don't remember that you were showing me your friends' Facebook posts and you know things, it doesn't matter, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

Yeah, yeah, that's I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm saying it happened in your mind. Like, did your friends also it happened for them that situation? No. Did it happen for anybody else in this world? No, so it happened only for you, right? But it's not a bad thing. It's just there's like what I'm trying to say, like why I was quiet, is that there's nothing to say for me on the situations that happened only for you. You understand?

SPEAKER_01 35:54

Maybe more like they hit me emotionally and they are a big thing, big memory for me, not in my mind.

SPEAKER_03 36:02

They have But like when I okay, let's say I showed you my friends on Instagram or whatever, then it means that I showed you my friends on Instagram. But the part where you thought that I'm showing you because I want also get married or something happened only in your mind. Is that correct?

SPEAKER_01 36:22

Oh my god, should you be a lawyer?

SPEAKER_03 36:24

I just want you to understand what I meant when I said that, you know? I I'm not saying that you made something up, but I'm just trying to do it.

SPEAKER_01 36:31

It's just a narrative and experience was inside of me.

SPEAKER_03 36:34

Because like you speak about it for five minutes and it's a big thing for you, and and I understand that, and it's perfect, and like you you're free to say whatever you feel like, but then like there's not much I can say because like it never happened for me, you know. Like the part where I would show you how I want to get married, and that's why I showed you my friends. Like, you know, like I I don't even do this kind of thing. Like, if I want something, I tell you, baby, I want this. Yeah, you're a man, yeah, exactly. So um, so yeah, so that's why I said that I also want to say some kind of experience of mine, you know.

SPEAKER_01 37:06

The mic is yours, yeah, but I don't know what okay, we'll get there. Of course, we have so much time, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

So I maybe I wanna say that for me, like the trip just continued with moving in with you, and and uh and it just got really excited for me because I was I wanted and I all I or I knew that I wanna create a business for maybe last at that point, let's say 10, 11, 12 years maybe. And you know, there was time when I had no idea what, and I started getting into that, and I started getting into online business. There I knew that I'm gonna do something online, and I and so on and so on. My journey was going until the point when we met and when we said that let's try to do it together. And for me, I honestly never thought that we're gonna actually create something.

SPEAKER_01 38:12

Wow, like thought.

SPEAKER_03 38:15

No, I was just not there. Like I was I was in a moment where I was creating something. I understand, but I completely, absolutely like I don't know why, but I had no thoughts about like where it's gonna take us. Yeah, like what's gonna come out of it, like what's gonna happen. Like for me, I felt honestly, I felt like we are just learning or trying or seeing how it would go if we eventually one day, maybe wanted to start the business together. Like, that's how I felt, literally. Yeah, and and it was for me like it was incredible because I think it was the first time ever in those maybe whatever years, then when I was trying to create something, I was actually doing in the moment what I liked. And it was not like it was before, because before I wanted to create just anything that would give me money, just so I can go, let's say, in a warm weather during winter. Like that, like that was like the only thing that I cared about. I cared about so I have something that brings me money, and so I don't have to like work so much on it, and it's not tied to one location or to certain seasons, so it can bring money all the time, you know? Like something like a passive income, like that's what I wanted.

SPEAKER_01 39:35

That's what you created.

SPEAKER_03 39:38

Uh in a way, yes. But before I was doing things that I didn't really like, and I thought that that's what will take me into the place where I can be in warm weather, you know, but this was completely opposite because I had no idea it can bring me somewhere. Like for me was enough that I was with you and that we are creating business together. So I'm not only creating business which I love, but I also created with somebody who I love and who I enjoyed spending time with and who I enjoy building business with. And that being just there was enough for me. Like I didn't, I wasn't thinking about anything more, you know. Yeah, and I believe that that's the reason why it became like so successful so fast. Because since then I would say that almost until now, I was not able to do the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:39

So it's just it's just unbelievable. It just happened at the time. And and it's like, you know, like it's like you cannot choose to stop overthinking, and I cannot choose to start overthinking. Yeah, like it's this like you cannot really choose like what your mind's gonna like do in certain points, right? It's like okay, come up with some big idea. So you cannot like choose that okay, I'm gonna create new Airbnb and make millions overnight, or be like, oh, I have no ideas. Like, whatever your mind gives you. Like, that's what it gives you, right? Like, it just happens, like you can't really explain that. Yeah, and this is exactly one of those moments when it just just happened somehow, and it's just it's it's it's not possible to explain.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

Yeah, some some some couples probably like they start building, they meet and they start building family or whatever, or I don't know. We started building this.

SPEAKER_03 41:34

Yeah, yeah, I I yeah, I don't really see the parallel or the the point about the family, but yes, because that's what we started building.

SPEAKER_01 41:45

Yeah, and so we'll continue in the next episode. I will never get rid of you, will I? We will forever record this story.

SPEAKER_03 41:56

I don't have to be there in the back.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

No, but I'm sorry, I didn't mean it in that. No, I'm just saying I don't have to be there.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

It's okay.

SPEAKER_01 42:02

If you don't want to do this, no, I didn't mean it. I love it. I never want to get rid of you. So thank you for sticking to me. Like a sticking to you, like a like a like a snot on a snot.

SPEAKER_02 42:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 42:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 42:25

Well, if you already finished, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:29

Why it's already too long, it's one hour, I think.

SPEAKER_03 42:32

Really? Yeah. But you will cut the things.

SPEAKER_01 42:41

Just kidding. No, okay, guys.

SPEAKER_03 42:43

You you were also thinking for 15 seconds about what kind of three things did I told you that we can make a business out of.

SPEAKER_01 42:50

Yeah, whatever. Okay, guys, so that's uh the third episode of the podcast what is life with Martina and Tomash, apparently. And if you enjoyed it, give us a like. If you wanna know what happened next in our relationship, tune in next week, subscribe, and comment something like your most favorite moment and like a light bulb moment, or like what was the part that stood out for you, besides the fact that me and Tomas have a completely different world and I don't even understand how we can live the same relationship. It's really funny. I love doing this with you. So, yeah, we enjoyed it. We hope you enjoyed it as well. And you wanna say something?

SPEAKER_02 43:42

Yeah, I would love to say.

SPEAKER_01 43:46

What do you want to say to the people?

SPEAKER_03 43:49

Yeah. Okay, so um, I wanna know if uh if it's okay to be there with Matika or you just wanna listen to her. If I'm boring and I'm just like you're waiting until I see live so you can listen to her, just let me know. I wanna know.

SPEAKER_01 44:05

Wow, baby, you're so insecure.

SPEAKER_03 44:07

No, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Yesterday you wondered if they even listened. Today you wonder if they even listen to you. Yes. I just wanna give you a big fat hug. Like, I wanna stop this.

SPEAKER_03 44:14

But I just wanna I just wanna know. Like, yeah, of course. But it's not what is insecure about that.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

Well, for example, I think people love listening to me.

SPEAKER_03 44:22

Yeah, but I don't want to project that. I just I don't wanna expect. I I just wanna know.

SPEAKER_01 44:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 44:27

That's all.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

Like let him know.

SPEAKER_03 44:29

You know, whatever it is. Let him know the truth. I just wanna I just I'm just in the unless I'm just interested, that's all. Like I'm curious, curious. I'm curious.

SPEAKER_01 44:37

Yeah, curiosity is uh one of the best traits that I have and you have.

SPEAKER_04 44:41

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

Okay, guys, have a beautiful day, beautiful night, wherever you are in the world. We love you, and we really had fun. We hope you had too. See you next week. Bye.